USB Connectivity

FDF is committed to continual product innovation. Our advanced computer consoles and performance monitors provide a motivational platform from which to improve your fitness and interact with peers via web-racing software and applications.

FDF ergometer models with USB connectivity enable you to connect your training sessions to your personal Windows PC or Laptop via standard USB cable.

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USB Device Driver for Windows

To connect your FDF Console or IPM to a host PC or Laptop download the device driver.

Device Driver Download Page (32 bit and 64 bit versions for Windows)

USB Device Driver Update

Use this link to update your Driver Software 

 

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    Eric Rousse

    I contacted the guys at concept2 to see if they thinks we could hook up a PM5 onto another rower brand. Here's what they said:

     

    "Hello, and thanks for your inquiry.  The PM5 monitor is a monitor that is built by us that only works on Concept2 products.  It’s calibrated specifically for the machines and unfortunately wouldn’t work on any other company’s product.

     

    The PM5 itself doesn’t require any special connection with our rowing machines.  It comes standard on all equipment we sell.  It can connect via Bluetooth or ANT+ to smart phones and Heart Rate straps.  All of our rowers are calibrated so that performance should feel the same from one to the next when using the same drag factor.

     

    Let us know if you have any further questions."

     

    So I guess we are stuck with our limited rower computer. At least with the work of Dma, we might be able to do something more. Let's see what we can do! Dma, I got your email, but haven't had the time yesterday to look at it. Should have to time tonight.

     

    Thanks!!

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    Martin Clement

    If it's possible to connect a PM5 module to my first degree machine I will definitely buy one right away 

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    Chris

    Hello Dma,

    Thank you for your response, unfortunately my computer skills end at building a PC and installing windows so this is beyond my knowledge. I do use an Android phone so it has a USB port, wireless is not really the issue for me would just like to use the phone or tablet to view and store the workouts. I will continue to watch this to see what you and other developers can come up with.

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    FDF - FluidRower FluidExercise FluidPowerZone

    Hi Andrea,

    We do not currently support MacOS however plan to do so in the near future.

    Please make sure you check our website regularly to get updates on our product updates and developments.  

    Kind regards,

    FDF

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    Byron Frenchie

    So its an old app? Great!  And the company is in Australia so they probably don't care how we feel about it. That's a shame.

     

    You've done something great. How can I get what you've created?

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    Byron Frenchie

    I don't know if this site is even monitored as of late. Lots of questions and no answers it seems. Might do better by asking over on face Book. Skye Gilligan  who is the monitor of the site shows he was logged on yesterday but offered no response to any questions. 

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    Chris

    Hello, I am also interested in being able view my rowing data on an android phone as my son accidentally let the handle slip and it hit and damaged the LCD display which is only partially legible now (In the first week of owning it and it costs about $500 to replace). The USB port still works but connecting to a PC is a bit cumbersome. If someone can get phone apps working from the supplied USB that would be great, however I was thinking would it not be possible to use a bluetooth/ANT+ bike speed/cadence sensor and the existing magnets that the supplied computer uses, see attached photo
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    Dma

    I am afraid you currently cannot get it but I promise to do my best to provide it. Are you on Windows, LInux or Mac?
    I will upload the code and let you know but right now it is not easy to be installed!!! I'll keep you updated.

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    Tom Sandham

    poor response to this feed

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    Eric Rousse

    Yeah I don't know if it will work. I haven't done enough research yet, but I'm considering it! :) Will keep you posted, I haven't found anyone else that tried that yet.

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    gmcoates

    Nothing I have tried makes this work.  I have tried a Windows 8 Tablet and it doesn't work.

    Should've bought something else, I would have if I had investigated that the FDF software and connections were still in the 20th century.

    If you haven't bought yet and are considering these - Just DON'T.

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    Dma

    Yes SOME android devices can do that and they will more coming soon. I don't really know the details though.

    Regarding the sensor you are also correct. I just think that reverse engineering the callibration will be more tedious than just hooking a serial2wifi or serial2bluetooth device.

    In any case, if your Screen is almost broken and you can't really see the output how can you reverse engineer the callibration? You do need two sensor readings (original FDF and your bike cadence, to compare the output of the same stroke right?

    By the way, I have a feeling that if you are to reverse engineer the callibration you must be able to upload code to a serial2wifi arduino like device ;-)

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    Byron Frenchie

    I run windows.

    Thanks.

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    Dma

    Hi Byron,
    you need a "mini USB" cable. They are a bit old fashioned but you can easily find them on hardware stores

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    Chris

    Hello Dma,

    I will need to wait for what you manage to come up with as I have no ability to program.

    As far as the data for calibration goes I don't think you would need a working display as that would be almost impossible to use as it is instantaneous data. I think you would need the output as a file (ie from the USB onto the computer that still works) and a second file recorded simultaneously that has the raw rotation data. It is a long time since I have connected the PC to the rower, do you know if the computer generated files can be opened as a data table in excel and if it also includes the raw rotation data?

    I think the ultimate solution would be for a power meter that measures the actual force applied with each stroke to the rowing pull cord but I cannot find one designed for this type of purpose. There is a golf glove ($89) that may work to provide direct power readings that could be used to come up with more accurate calculation for power.

    http://www.sensorprod.com/tactilus/hand-grip-pressure.php

    https://www.golfdigest.com/story/it-would-be-an-understatement

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    Martin Clement

    I did some research but no luck.

    I haven't found anyone that tried this.

    How much does this module (PM5) cost ?

    i presume we need to buy it directly from CONCEPT website

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    Dma

    Geoff, Brad, Niklas it looks like we can make this work.

    If you have read the thread you probably know that I am actually on the embedded systems side and thus really bad at making JS apps. :-D

    My initial plan was to read out the data, send them to my online DB and display them with Grafana. Now, this was enough for me but definitely not user friendly. I believe that this should be a universal app which can keep the data locally and display them.

    I have made the repo where you can find the description of how to read the data Make sure you start from there. Niklas, since you are the Angular developer feel free to push or fork. Whatever suits you best! :-)

    Whichever the case, let's keep this thread live for others to see and let's put the technical discussion on github.

    Any other suggestions?

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    Andrea Marie

    Do you have USB Device Driver software for Mac users?

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    Martin Clement

    I have just bought the Apollo rower machine a few hours ago and it's not working with MAC and doesn't have any app available on my iPhone.

    I was expecting the same support as Concept 2, they have iPhone app to connect to the rower.

    Please guys tell me you are working on this 

    thanks

    Martin

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    Dma

    Hi Chris,

    that's a great idea however if you attempt to read the sensor directly you will need to callibrate the device. This is an interesting project especially due to the fact that FDF callibration is not very accurate.

    There is a simpler solution though. If the usb still works and you have a bit of arduino knowledge then you can easily read out the usb and send the data over wifi to any connected device! You can find such a device on Amazon with less than 7$

    https://www.amazon.com/DIYmall-ESP8266-ESP-01S-Serial-Transceiver/dp/B00O34AGSU

    I am planning to make the code public some time sooner or later.

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    Dma

    Hi Eric,

    I would really love to support this but unfortunately I am not a Windows developer. I will do my best but it will take me much more time than it should normally take. 
    What I have now, is something that gets the data from the Apollo Pro and turns them to graphs of your choise. SO you can draw anything you want!!!

    It requires a bit of installing and a connection to the internet.

    My attempt is to remove the installing hussle and the need for internet connection. I am calling for any rowing lover developers (windows or javascript) out there for help :-)

    Your interest is motivating.

    PS: if the phrase "install nodejs on your pc" doesn't scare you away I can already share this with you :-)

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    Dma

    What if i told you that I already have the USB data format decoded? :-)
    I have asked the support to provide the code of the driver or at least the communication protocol so that we can build an application reading the data and making some nice graphs. I doubt they will do but I will give it a go to hack my Apollo Pro.

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    Dma

    Connecting this to a linux host and trying to see what comes out of the /dev/ttyUSB0 was the first thing I did. That was a long shot anyway. I am also wondering  if FDF would like to share information about how to read the usb data. If that is done I am sure there will be lots of developers building nice apps. I am totally in it for an open source weekend project :-)

    Let's see...

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    gmcoates

    It's just useless. Facebook isn't the answer as it don't use the waste of time that it is. We need answers on the company zendesk or at least the realisation we bought a second rate item.

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    Darren Bullock

    it is piss poor that you have not done a up grade to the mac really pissed of with first degree fitness 

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    Byron Frenchie

    I looked at the connection for the USB cable and it looks like its a different type of USB cable needed. What type of USB cable do I need? Doesn't look like a normal USB connection.

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    Niklas Speich Hegnelt

    Hey Dma.

    Awesome initative.

    I was actually just starting work on an electron app for the rower when I came across this thread.

    I'm a full time Angular dev, and I would like to contribute to the app if you think it's of any value.

    Otherwise I might just fork your project and go from there.. ;-)

     

    Cheers!

    https://github.com/phl3x0r

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